Warner Budget Committee

Meeting Minutes

February 8, 2007

 

Meeting opened at 7:06 p.m.

In attendance: Mike Cutting - Chair, John Warner, Barbara Bartlett, Harold Whittemore, Peter Newman, David Karrick, and Selectman Richard A. Cook

Absent: Marc Violette

Recorder of the minutes is Mary Whalen  

Others present:

Laura Buono, Richard Senor, Selectman David E. Hartman , Peg McLaughlin, Selectman Wayne Eigabroadt,              Chris Perkins, Martha Mical, Lynn Perkins  

1.  MEETING MINUTES   

Barbara Bartlett made the motion to approve meeting minutes dated February 1, 2007 .  Motion seconded.  Paragraph 2, change $185,000 to $182,000, and page 2 line 7 changes to $263,000.  All were in favor of the minutes and changes.  The motion passed.  

2. PUBLIC HEARING PETITION ARTICLES  

To see if the Town will raise and appropriate the sum of $182,000.00 (One Hundred Eighty Two Thousand Dollars) for the purpose of assisting the Warner Village Water District to construct 200,000 gallon water storage tank off Latting Lane and connecting water main (By Petition).  Selectman Cook made the motion to recommend the above submitted petition article by the Warner Village Water District.  Motion seconded.  The impact to the Town is for one year at .65¢ per thousand. John Warner recommended the Budget Committee to vote in favor of the petition because the project has started with a grant appropriation and is an infrastructure project that benefits the whole town long-term. Peter Newman agreed with John and also spoke about the benefit toward fire protection.  Selectman Cook is opposed to the project because there are other options available rather than imposing the cost to the taxpayers.  There is the option of the exaction fee, a tax incremental finance district (TIF) which after created the increase in property value pay’s the cost of a bond for improvements.  Another way is a business service district where an additional tax would be added to the district established to pay for infrastructure improvements.   

PUBLIC COMMENTS:  

Martha Mical added that if a TIF district can not generate enough to pay the bond amount the responsibility falls on the taxpayers.   

Selectman Eigabroadt added that you can’t have too many infrastructure fees for the developers, there needs to be a happy median.   

Lynn Perkins added; try to imagine Warner without a public water & sewer system; particularly under today’s regulations.  Some of the lots within the village would be undersized to accommodate their own systems.  Lynn also added that back in 2004 the Budget Committee recommended $998,000 for improvements in the Water District, and now in order to complete a portion of the project  the amount of $182,000 is needed, in regards to exaction fees and TIF’s, that type of funding will take time.  The $182,000 resulted because of the increase in construction costs over the last two years (40% increase).  Putting the project off another year will result in higher costs.  In order to implement exaction fees and/or a TIF district will also take time and may not work because the Town is too restrictive resulting in businesses not coming in.  The issue of how to improve the integrity of the water remains, excluding exit 9, obtaining larger storage allows better fire protection.   

Richard Senor asked if the Town loaned the precinct the $182,000 could the money be paid back through exaction fees or a TIF District.   

Selectman Cook does not believe that a TIF can pay for assumed costs.   

Mike Cutting added that if the Precinct assumes responsibility for the $182,000 then through exaction fees the bond could be reduced at a faster rate.  If the Town assumes the $182,000 then there is no return from exaction fees because the Town will pay the debt in full within one year.   

Lynn considers the tie-in fee as an exaction fee, there are no areas left within the Precinct to build, the only area is exit 9.  The Precinct is also requiring that all new development at exit 9 must install and maintain individual pumping stations.  Lynn added that at the last meeting it was asked if the tank did not go through would it impact the Precinct. When answering that question Lynn was thinking water, after reconsideration, yes the lack of tank capacity would impact the Precinct; there would $160,000 - $170,000 in engineering costs lost along with the grant money in the amount of $263,000.  If the Precinct cannot show Rural Development that the project is moving forward then credibility of the project may be denied.   

An audience member asked the total amount for the project.  The project totals $1.2 million covering the 200,000 gallon tank, 12” water lines and the well.  To reduce costs from $395,000 to $182,000 the Precinct Commissioners decided not to complete the third well this year.    

Martha Mical spoke in favor of the project, and believes the Town as a whole will benefit from the project.  

Selectman Cook agrees that the project is needed but does not believe the additional costs need to come from the taxpayers.  

John Warner added there are clearly scenarios where the Precinct looses a significant amount of money and momentum on the project.   

Selectman Cook explained that to date only 10% of the approved money from 2004 has been spent.  It was told that the grant does not have a time limit.  

Peg McLaughlin explained that the grant is available as long as the Precinct shows active pursuit of the project.  

Selectman Cook added that the Precinct is willing to take the risk that there may be a hotel at exit 9 but not willing to take the risk that costs will go up.  There is still the fact that the taxpayers do not have to pay for the project.  Selectman Cook recommends not recommending the petition because there are other options available.  

Lynn explained that bids have been received and construction is scheduled to begin in April 2007.   

VOTE  

Roll call vote: Barbara Bartlett – no; John Warner – yes; Harold Whittemore – yes; David Karrick – yes; Peter Newman – yes; Selectman Richard A. Cook – no.  Motion passes.

3. PETITION SUBMITTED BY THE TRANSFER STATION  

To see if the Town will vote to change the pay scale for the Manager and Attendants at the Warner Transfer Station.  Information, salaries and hourly pay were gathered from surrounding towns with similar operations.  The Budget Committee does not vote on articles that do not have a dollar amount.  There was an informational page attached to the petition explaining like town comparisons.  

Judith Rogers commented that the pay scale does refer to money.  

Selectman Cook added that the pages that were signed do not have the informational page attached to them.  It is not clear that the people who signed the petition actually saw and read the informational page.  Legally the informational page is not part of the warrant article.  

Richard Senor disagreed that the informational page is not part of the petition because the top of the page is titled petition article.  Laura explained that when the documents were received in the Selectmen’s office there were 3 or 4 informational pages on top, and then there were several signature pages that were separate.  They informational page was not stapled to each of the signature pages.  As far as what is worded on the ballot is what is worded on the signature page.   

Judith Rogers explained that when she received the petition in the Town Clerks office the informational page was paper clipped on the left hand side of the folder and the signatures were on the right hand side.  Judith removed the informational page on the left hand side and signed received Town Clerk’s office along with the date and put it all together.   

Selectman Hartman recommended a ruling from Town Counsel on what is actually the petition article.  Mike Cutting read the information page into the record.  Laura explained again that typically the complete petition appears at the top of the page following with the signature lines on every page.  The petition was not received in the Selectmen’s office as such.  The petition could also be changed on the Town Meeting floor to include money.  What needs to be known is, does the Transfer Station just want the wage scale changed or do they want to raise and appropriate a certain amount.  That type of information if it was suppose to be part of the article should have been attached to the signature page beginning with To see if the Town will vote …..  The article submitted to the Selectmen’s office is an advisory article.  Harold Whittemore added that he was asked to sign the petition and did not because he is on the Budget Committee, Harold feels that it is a conflict and also feels there is a conflict with the wage study, Harold was also on the Wage Study Committee.  Harold asked if the informational page should be verified.  Pete Newman interjected, the discussion is irrelevant, the Budget Committee is not recommending the article and the article will still go before the Town.   

Selectman Hartman recommends moving forward and presenting the article as received knowing that the article can be amended at Town Meeting.  

4. CAPITAL EXPENSE CHANGES  

The Board of Selectmen reduced the Fire Department Equipment Capital Reserve from $100,000 to $20,000.  The amount to be raised and appropriated was reduced by $10,000; the total amount is now $3,148,919.  The Budget Committee added their recommendation in the amount of $182,000 bringing the total to be raised and appropriated to $3,330.919.  

Because the Selectmen adjusted the Fire Department Equipment Reserve to $20,000 the Budget Committee need to recommend/not recommend.  David Karrick made the motion to recommend the sum of $20,000 to place in the already established Fire Department Equipment Capital Reserve Fund.  Pete Newman seconded the motion.  All were in favor.  The motion passed.

5. GENERAL COMMENTS  

The Committee thanked the efforts of the Board of Selectmen and the Town Administrator in creating the 2007 budget.   

6. WARNER VILLAGE WATER DISTRICT  

David Karrick made the motion to recommend the 2007 Warner Village Water District budget in the amount of $514,441.00 for the operation, maintenance and improvement of the District’s water and sewer systems.  John Warner seconded the motion.  Vote taken: 1 opposed, motion passed.  

John Warner made the motion to recommend the Warner Village Water District 2007 revenues in the amount of $397,811.  Pete Newman seconded the motion.  All were in favor.  The motion passed.

 

Motion to adjourn 8:37 p.m.