Warner Budget Committee

Meeting Minutes

Thursday, November 20, 2008

 

Meeting opened at 6:04 p.m.

In attendance:   Marc Violette – Chair

                        John Warner – Vice Chair

                        Clyde Carson

                        Brenda O’Brien

                        Harold Whittemore

                        Peter Newman – Warner Village Water District Representative

                        David Karrick Jr. – Selectman’s Representative

Absent:             Mike Cutting                    

Others present:

Laura Buono – Town Administrator                      Richard A. Cook – Selectman       Ed Mical                       

Paul Violette                                                      Barbara Annis                            Jeanne Hand                 

Jim Hand                                                           Eric Rodgers                              Rick Davies

Fred Hill                                                            Krista Katz                                 Marianne Howlett

 

1. Capital Improvements Program Presentation

Planning Board representative Ed Mical presented the CIP to the BC.   Mr. Mical acknowledged the members of the CIP Committee as Dan Watts, Harold French and Hank Duhamel from the Planning Board, Clyde Carson from the BC, Selectman Cook and Laura Buono from the Selectmen’ office as well as Ed Mical.  A private citizen was also asked to join the committee but for whatever reasons did not participate.   

The criterion established for a capital expense is a cost of $10K or more and a useful life of 3 or more years.  The CIP Committee will rank the submitted projects, in some cases the Committee changed and re-ranked what was submitted by the department head.  These changes are noted on the individual projects.  Marc Violette asked if the departments are aware of the re-ranking.  Mr. Mical believes the department heads were advised.  Ms. Buono said the departments would be notified if the year requested was changed by the CIP Committee.  The Committee will create a draft CIP and forward it to the Planning Board for review and action. When the Planning Board receives the draft they can adjust the schedule.  The Planning Board will hold a public hearing for comment, after the public hearing the Planning Board will vote to either make changes or adopt.  This year the Planning Board voted to adopt the 2009-2014 Capital Improvements Program; once adopted a copy is filed with the Town Clerk and copies are distributed.  

Board of Selectmen – CIP

Ø       Revaluation                               

Ø       Town Hall Front Steps               

Ø       Town Hall Roof

Ø       Town Hall Addition  

Police Department

Ø       Cruiser replacement program – 2010, 2012 & 2014  

Fire Department

Ø       Property Purchase

Ø       New Fire Station

Ø       Engine 2 – replace

Ø       Dry Hydrant Installation – partially funded by a grant

Ø       Fire Equipment  

Highway Department

Ø       Construction Fund - $200K per year

Ø       Bridges - $50K per year

Ø       Road Construction Projects - $4.5 million 

Ø       Truck Replacement Program – 2011, 2012 & 2013

Ø       Excavator – 2014

Ø       Brush Chipper – 2010  

Emergency Management

Ø       Alternate route off of Kearsarge Mountain Road

Ø       Hazard Mitigation Plan update – 2013 (possible grant money)  

Transfer Station

Ø       Land Acquisition Expansion  

Parks & Recreation

Ø       Garage for Storage  

Conservation Commission

Ø       $50K per year (amount has been decreased to $30K for 2009)  

Planning Board

Ø       Exit 9 Traffic Improvement  

Water District

Ø       Meter Replacement

Ø       Sewer Pipe Replacement on Main Street

Ø       Water & Sewer Lines on West Main

Ø       Alternate Water Supply

Ø       Second Clarifier

Ø       Replace/Repair Water Line on Kearsarge Mountain Road  

The above listed projects are projected for 2009-2014 cycle.   

Recommendations from the CIP Committee:

Ø       The Committee recommends starting the CIP process early in the year. 

Ø       Continue searching for grants that will help offset costs. 

Ø       Possible leases for equipment

Ø       Create an amount for yearly Capital expenses in effort to stabilize the budget

Ø       Capital Reserve versus borrowing for projects

Ø       Long range plan for road construction projects  

The Planning Board reviewed the CIP Committee’s recommendations and also added: safety and welfare of employees, residents and visitors to their list of recommendations.  The Planning Board also recommended funding of some kind for Exit 9.  

Ed Mical concluded his presentation.  

Chairman Violette called for questions from the Budget Committee members; there were none.  

Chairman Violette called for questions from the public:

Mr. Hand asked for more information regarding a new Fire Station.  Mr. Violette explained that the project is still in the planning phase.  There is $200K in a Capital Reserve that would probably take care of land acquisition.  Location has yet to be determined as well as the construction.  Bonding is an option because it allows the present as well as future users to pay for the debt.  

Jeanne Hand asked if there has been past discussion regarding the need of a new Fire Station.  Mr. Violette explained that the current station was built in 1962 with volunteer labor and material.  The new equipment being purchase is larger than years ago.  Part of the CIP is to look into future needs.  Paul Violette added that there is no room for expansion at the current Fire Station.  

Barbara Annis spoke on behalf of the Exit 9 Traffic Control Reserve Fund and understands why the CIP Committee did not grant additional funds for 2009.  But, since that decision a survey was completed as well as a feasibility study.  The scenarios presented were a median strip, roundabout and traffic light.  Ms. Annis is researching grant funding and has contacted the Merrimack County Grant Writer.  New London recently completed construction of a roundabout that was partially funded by a grant; New London ’s portion was 20%.  One comment the grant writer said to Ms. Annis is in order to get money you need seed money.  Currently there is no money in the reserve fund.  Ms. Annis also noted that within the Notice of Decision for RAW is a $24K impact fee specifically for traffic control. Plans for all the scenarios are available for viewing in the Planning Board office.   

Paul Violette added one of the largest costs is the configuring of the driveways at Evans Mart and the Park & Ride as well as adding medians. It’s not just adding traffic lights.  

Jeanne Hand asked if there are regulations for businesses that prohibit them from locating beyond a small bridge, she is concerned about the bridge damage that would be caused by large trucks continually passing over small bridges making deliveries to the businesses.  Eric Rodgers from the Zoning Board explained that there are no regulations regarding business locating in commercial areas only if it is not zoned commercial.  Ms. Buono also added that roads are built to weight standards.  Martha Mical commented that Class V roads are controlled by the State of NH laws, you cannot restrict the roads.  

Barbara Annis asked the BC to consider adding the Exit 9 funding back into the budget.    

Selectman Karrick said there is a chance the Selectmen may lower the amount that is needed for the revaluation.  A decision will be made by the Selectmen in early December.   

Mr. Violette closed public comments.  

Mr. Violette called for a motion to adopt the CIP.  Clyde Carson moved that the BC adopt the 2009-2014 Capital Improvements Program.  Pete Newman seconded the motion; all were in favor, the motion passed.  

2. Selectmen’s Capital Budget

The total Capital budget for 2009 has decreased by 8.91%.   

Conservation Commission Fund:

Marc Violette said that Conservation Commission decreased their request from $50K to $30K.  Mr. Violette said he read the Conservation Commission meeting minutes and understands there are no planned projects that are pending, revenues are also down for the Commission.  Mr. Violette said because of the economic times he is not recommending the $30K.  John Warner agrees he feels conservation is important but it’s a matter of how much conservation the town can afford this year compared to past years.  Selectman Karrick noted to the Committee that the current balance in the Conservation Fund is committed for proposed projects ($75K for Courser Easement, $119 Boundtree easement).  Selectman Cook said that during a Selectmen’s meeting Conservation Commission member Brian Hotz indicated the Commission is beginning negotiations with another landowner.   

Clyde Carson would like to wait to hear more information on the pending project before the BC votes.  

Fred Hill encourages not funding the Conservation Commission in 2009.  Mr. Hill believes in conservation but next year is not the time.  

Transfer Expansion Capital Reserve: Selectman Karrick said the Town will purchase the Transfer Station property from the State in 2009 for $85K, $50K is already in capital reserve.  The total amount requested for 2009 is $115K; the remaining balance will be used for expansion changes and repairs to the facility.  Selectman Cook said a committee was formed to re-evaluate how the entire operation works.   

Marc Violette asked if the Town chooses to change to single-stream would the change require the same amount of space or would it be less or more.  Selectman Cook said single-stream would not require major additions to the site.  The savings would be in reduced labor.  John Warner who is a member of the Transfer Station Facility Committee said the Committee is looking at many options.  The data on single stream versus the current operation needs to be compared again because of recent changes.  When a comparison was done it resulted in a 10% savings with a lot of potential errors in the calculation.  Mr. Warner said there are several choices being considered and configured by the Transfer Station Facility Committee; he did note that single-stream was not necessarily the preferred choice.   

Mr. Rodgers asked why the Town is buying the land.  Mr. Violette explained the lease is up from the State.  

Brenda O’Brien asked when the Transfer Station was designed, what was the intended growth population.  Selectman Cook said the station was designed with a 20 year life which will be coming to term.  

Rob Johnson feels for clarity purposes the additions to the Transfer Station should be separate in the Capital Improvements Plan.  Selectman Cook said there are expansion changes that include some paving and an addition to the existing structure.   

Highway Capital Reserve: Fred Hill asked if a comparison has ever been completed on using two ten wheelers instead of 6 wheelers especially for hauling sand.  The BC would like Ms. Buono to bring this forward to the Public Works Director.  

Alfred Hanson asked if the Town, based on the CIP’s plan for $4 million for road repairs and another separate reserve for $200K per year it looks to him that the town is going to spend $1million a year on road repairs.  Selectman Cook explained the Public Works Director estimated the amount of road work that is needed to be done; it’s an estimated back log of work, it’s not a request ($4million).  The $200K is being requested for road construction that can continue on an annual basis.  

Krista Katz asked what is covered under the Highway Maintenance line.  Ms. Buono explained road maintenance, culvert replacement, line painting, anything that is not major construction.  Highway Maintenance is an operating budget expense.  Ms. Katz asked how maintenance items are prioritizes.  Ms. Katz mentioned the faded crosswalks in the center of Town and feels they are a priority for public safety.  Ms. Katz feels funding the Conservation Commission is a discretionary item where the crosswalks are not.  

Mr. Hand asked if there is a reason the Police Department is on a 2 year cycle for police cruisers.  Mr. Violette explained there are three cruisers on the force and it has been recommended to replace the cruisers every two years, it’s not based solely on mileage, engine hours are also considered.  Mr. Hand feels the cycle should be for every 3 years or more because vehicles these days last beyond 200K miles.  Ms. Buono said the last cruiser was pushed to three years.  Mr. Violette asked if the Selectmen’s office have a steadfast rule on police cruisers.  Ms. Buono said the rotation schedule is in place, but if the Police Chief says he can get another year or if the Board of Selectmen asks if the vehicle could get another year because of a tight budget it is certainly considered.  The next vehicle is scheduled for 2010.  

Fred Hill said that when you go down to Whites Farm in Concord NH and look at State cruisers for auction none of them have less than 200K miles on them unless they have been wrecked.  Mr. Hill agrees with Mr. Hand that the police vehicles could go longer than two years.  Mr. Hills personal feelings is that the Town does not need 3 police cruisers, 4 wheeled drive he does not have a problem with.  Mr. Violette asked Selectman Karrick to keep these comments in mind during the 2009 CIP process.   

Alfred Hanson mentioned that the new dodge cruisers are known for their long life.  

Brenda O’Brien observed that the Town has purchased more cruisers, added more personnel, but the activity analysis has gone down.  

Jeanne Hand reported back to the BC about her concern regarding the Community Action Program services that may be over lapping.  Ms. Hand spoke with Laura Hall who is in charge of the Warner Community Action Program.  Ms. Hand asked if the Town could cut back on some funding in order to add it to the welfare line.  With the down fall of the economy she expects there will be an increase for this assistance.  Ms. Buono explained that she has communicated with the Welfare Director about if there is a need to increase the line; the Welfare Director said she would let Ms. Buono know if there is a need.  Marianne Howlett asked if money left over at the end of the year could be encumbered.  Ms. Buono explained that encumbered money is only for a specific project that was not completed in the year budgeted.  

Next meeting is scheduled for December 4, 2008 as well as December 18th.  Mr. Violette feels the December 18th meeting will provide a better outlook on the end of year expenses and a better idea on fuel pricing, as well as answers to some outstanding questions.  On December 4th the BC will meet with the Water Precinct.   

Motion was made and seconded to adjourn at 7:44 p.m.  

   

Respectfully submitted,

Mary Whalen

Recording Secretary