Warner Budget Committee

Meeting Minutes

Thursday, December 2, 2010

 

The meeting opened at 7:03 p.m.

In attendance: Marc Violette, Mike Cutting, Alfred Hanson, Martha Bodnarik, Paul DiGeronimo, Kimberley Edelmann Peter Savlen – Warner Village Water Precinct Representative and Selectman Clyde Carson  

Others present: Laura Buono – Town Administrator, David Karrick, Jr. – Selectman, David E. Hartman – Selectman, Matt Waite, Varick Proper, Jeanne Hand, Jim Hand, Ed Raymond  

1. Meeting Minutes

Mr. Carson moved to approve meeting minutes dated November 16, 2010 .  Mr. Cutting seconded the motion.  It was noted that Kimberley Edelmann was not in attendance.  All were in favor of the motion; the motion passed.  

2. Highway Department 2011 Budget

Matt Waite, acting DPW and newly promoted DPW as of January 2011 noted that the calcium chloride line has increased and the balance of the operating budget is the same.  

Starting January 2011 the Foreman position will be vacant.  The Town has put the position out to the current employees and if someone is promoted from within then there will be a heavy equipment position open; the goal is to be fully staffed.  Mr. Violette asked in general the hiring of employees if it is necessary to fill full-time positions or can the positions be filled with part-time help or no replacement at all.   

Martha Bodnarik asked Mr. Waite if the Town needed the full department’s strength during the last few winters.  Mr. Waite said yes, most definitely.  Ms. Bodnarik asked if capable part-time people could be hired for the winter and the summer.  Mr. Waite feels having only a part-time staff would result in longer time periods to accomplish projects.  

Mr. Violette is suggesting not to fill the vacant position, to look at contracting the snow plowing and for the remaining seasons use the current staff.  He is suggesting that the administration look at what the impact will be to the budget by not filling the vacant position.  The Town Administrator said contracted services versus full time employment needs to be compared, she is not sure if there is a savings with contracting because the equipment, labor and insurance are rolled into the hourly wages of a contractor.   

Mr. Hanson feels that since the town no longer builds roads the summer road maintenance is less demanding than the winter road maintenance, he asked Mr. Waite if he could run the department with six people.  Mr. Waite said only for road maintenance in the summer time.  Mr. Hanson recommends hiring part-time staff during the winter months only.  Mr. Carson does not feel contracting labor would be economical for the Town.  Mr. Hanson said he was talking about hiring part-time not contracting services.   

Martha Bodnarik added that throughout the Town the Highway Department supports other departments such as site work that needs to be done at the Transfer Station.   

The Town Administrator said overall the administration has reduced the wage costs; positions have been changed to part-time.  The Budget Committee is recommending the administration to look at the Highway Department to see if it is feasible to reduce labor costs.   

Mr. DiGeronimo asked Mr. Waite if the vacant position is not filled does he feels there will be an increase in the overtime.  Mr. Waite said without experiencing the loss of manpower he anticipates progress on projects would be slower.  

Selectman Carson completed a cost comparison on what other Town’s in the school district spend on various budget items and found Warner is comparable with Newbury, Sutton and Wilmot on what is budgeted for roads.  

Martha Bodnarik lives on a small loop road and she said the residents asked the Highway Department not to use any salt in the winter only sand.  She wonders if this could be applied to other comparable roads in order to save on salt.    

3. Transfer Station 2011 Budget

Transfer Station Foreman, Varick Proper said early in 2010 Naughton and Son’s Recycling began shipping some of the commercial accounts including Warner to a incinerator in Berlin as a cost savings; this change resulted in a significant impact to the Concord Regional budget line.  Also, the tipping fees and transportation fees decreased in 2010.   Mr. Proper said all these changes were out of the Town’s control and for 2011 the budget has been reduced by 17%.  Mr. Proper also said there will be a reduction in revenues from Concord Regional.   

Martha Bodnarik asked if the traffic problem will be resolved.  Mr. Proper said the Transfer Station is in the process of correcting the traffic problem.  

4. Fire Department 2011 Budget

The Town Administrator informed the Committee that the Fire Chief is attending another meeting and is not available this evening.  Selectman Hartman asked if it was made clear to the Chief that he was invited to the Thursday evening Budget Committee meeting because Tuesday evenings is not convenient for the Chief.  The Town Administrator will follow up with the Chief.  The Budget Committee would prefer to wait until the Chief is available to review the Fire Department budget.  

Martha Bodnarik said at the last Budget Committee meeting it was learned at the last minute that the Chief could not attend and now again this evening when there was plenty of notice given to the Chief.  Ms. Bodnarik said the lack of attendance is altering her opinion of the Fire Chief.  It was noted at the last meeting that Thursday would be more accommodating for the Chief.   

Mr. Cutting moved to postpone the Fire Departments budget until Thursday, December 9th and begin next Thursday’s meeting with the Selectmen’s budget.  Kimberley Edelmann seconded the motion.  Mr. Cutting withdrew his motion.  Mr. Hanson moved to follow the December 9th meeting in order as originally scheduled; the Fire Department will be last on the agenda (Water District, Selectmen and Fire Department).  Motion was seconded; all were in favor, the motion passed.  

5. Public Comments

Jeanne Hand noticed that the budgeted amount for street lighting has increased; she said the Town of North Conway, NH has done away with street lighting except within major areas.  She added that if a resident wants a street light rental arrangements can be made.  

Pat DeAngelais asked how the meeting schedule was decided upon because she also attends the School Board meetings which are scheduled on the same evenings as the Budget Committee.  She also asked about the scheduled meeting with both the School Board and the Municipal Budget Committee.  Mr. Violette explained that the Budget Committee has scheduled a work session with Warner’s School Board & MBC representatives on December 16th.  Mr. Violette said the BC schedule is determined by what is convenient for the Board.  

Selectman Hartman confirmed that the presentation of the Selectmen’s Budget on December 9th will include everything except the Police, Fire, Highway and Transfer Station.  

The Town Administrator asked if the BC needs any further information before the December 9th meeting.  Kimberley Edelmann said when she receives an electronic format of the budget she creates a pie chart and would like the latest version sent to her.   

Mr. Violette reviewed the remainder of the BC meeting schedule:

Thurs., December 9, 2010            Water Precinct, Board of Selectmen and Fire Department Budgets

Thurs., December 16, 2010          Work Session to include School Board & MBC

Thurs., January 6, 2011               Capital Budget Work Session

Thurs., January 13, 2011             Work Session

Thurs., January 20, 2011             Finalize 2011 Operating & Capital Budgets

Thurs., January 27, 2011             TBD

Thurs., February 3, 2011             Public Hearing

Thurs., February 10, 2011            Final vote on Operating & Capital Budgets  

Warner’s Municipal Budget Committee member, Jim Hand said the MBC is looking at reducing the school budget without affecting the quality of education.  Mr. Hand said the MBC will present a lower budget than what the School Board will be presenting.  Mr. Hand added that 2.8% of the 4.6% (1.6 million) increase to the school budget has been passed on to the district from the State which is the increase to the retirement system.  Mike Cutting asked if the proposed increase is based on what was budgeted last year; he said the percentage increase is actually higher based on what was spent last year.  Mr. Hand said that point has been brought up several times.   Mr. Cutting said as a town, the BC is having issues with a 1% increase, he does not feel that the School Board “gets it”.  The members discussed how there is a need to change the way business is handled in the school district.  

6. Adjournment

A motion was made to adjourn at 8:25 p.m.  

   

Respectfully submitted,

Mary Whalen

Recording Secretary