Town of Warner – Planning Board

Minutes of Meeting

Monday, December 17, 2007     7:00 PM

Warner Town Hall , Lower Level

 

Members Present:              Barbara Annis, Paul Violette, Ed Mical

Members Absent:               Hank Duhamel, Drew Serell, George Pellettieri, Wayne Eigabroadt

Members Late:                   None

Alternates Present:            Stacey Cooper, Harold French

Alternates Late:                  Dan Watts

Alternates Absent:              None

Presiding:                             Barbara Annis

Recording:                           Jean Lightfoot

 

Open Meeting at 7:00 PM

Roll Call  

Ms. Annis opened the meeting, recognized Harold French as a new member and noted there was a quorum.  

1.  Flood Plain Ordinance  

Ms. Annis explained that in order for the Town of Warner to continue to have flood insurance, certain articles have to be on the Warrant for the next Town Meeting.  Referring to a letter from the NH Office of Energy and Planning, dated November 2, 2007, to Laura Buono, she said the suggested warrant language on the last page did not look complete to her since it didn’t include the specific deletions, additions and definitions so that people would know what they were talking about.  So, we contacted Don Gartrell and his response has been given to everyone on the Board.  She said that he thought it should be broken down and have each article as a separate warrant article.  Ms. Cooper noted that she read it that way, too, but wondered if it would be troublesome if any one article were to be shot down, then we would not be in compliance.  Ms. Annis said they would be listed separately and agreed that it could be a problem if any one were not passed.  Mr. Mical said that he believed that as far as FEMA is concerned, if you’re working at staying in compliance, they give some leeway.  He added that when we do the public hearing, we should explain to the voters that this is to stay current with the National Flood Insurance Program, with which Warner has participated for several years.  He said to explain that there are individuals in the community that have that insurance and without this, they would not be eligible.  The other thing he noted that FEMA has said that if you’re not in the Flood Insurance Program, then you’re not eligible for funds any future national disaster declarations.  He said we’ve received one Hazard Mitigation Grant and there are two pending, none of which we would be eligible for if we were not participating in the Flood Insurance Program.  Ms. Cooper thought that there needs to be a separate piece of paper handed out for each article.  She said she thought that with some background information, the warrant articles would be readily understandable why the changes are necessary.   

Ms. Annis said she referred to the State Statutes and last year’s Town Report as to the wording of the articles.  She read from RSA 675:3. VII:  Are you in favor of the adoption of Amendment No. ____ as proposed by the Planning Board for the Town.  The description is then inserted.  She explained that we had become aware of this last year around the Town Meeting time, but because of the pressure and tension that the Planning Board was under at that time, the subject was not pursued, saying that we would straighten it out this year.  Last year, she noted, it was “Are you in favor of Amendment to Warner Zoning Ordinance, Article III definitions.   The word “adoption” is left out.  She said that the ballot question could also repeal, using the word repeal, in place of the word adoption or amendment.  She also said from last year’s Town Report, it said that every one of the Zoning Articles said they were recommended by the Planning Board.  She said that in Section VIII of RSA 675:3, it says that  

             If an amendment is submitted by the selectmen or village district commissioners, the ballot shall so indicate.  A notation on the ballot stating the planning board’s approval or disapproval shall immediately follow the question’s description.”  

Ms. Annis referred to Page 1 of Attachment 2 from the November letter from the State Office of Emergency Planning.  She said that the “Definitions” have to be revised.  She asked if the question would be to “revise,” rather than “adopt,” since it is a revision.  Ms. Cooper suggested, “Are you in favor of adopting the revisions to Amendment No. ___?”  There was discussion about which definitions were new and which were to be revised.  Mr. Mical said that there are only 3 definitions that need to be changed and currently exist in the Flood Plain Development Ordinance.  The changes are that the underlined portions of the definitions are to be added – there are no other changes to the three definitions.  Ms. Annis asked Mr. Mical if his suggested wording would be:  “Are you in favor of revising the Amendment No. 1 definitions for Development, Manufactured home, and Regulatory floodway?”  Mr. Mical said he would suggest more detail to show what is being added to what and underline the additions.  

Ms. Annis suggested the following:  

            “Are you in favor of amending Item No. 1 in Definitions:  

                   Development means any man-made change to improved or unimproved real estate, including but not limited to buildings or other structures, mining, dredging, filling, grading, paving, excavation or drilling operations or storage of equipment or materials.  

                  Manufactured home means a structure, transportable in one or more sections, which is built on a permanent chassis and is designed for use with or without a permanent foundation when attached to the required utilities.  For floodplain management purposes the term “manufactured home” includes park trailers, travel trailers, and other similar vehicles placed on site for greater than 180 consecutive days.  This includes manufactured homes located in a manufactured home park or subdivision.  

                  Regulatory floodway means the channel of a river or other watercourse and the adjacent land areas that must be reserved in order to discharge the base flood without cumulatively increasing the water surface elevation more than a designated height.”  

She continued:  

            “Are you in favor of the adoption of Amendment No. 2 by inserting in Definitions:  

            Manufactured home park or subdivision means a parcel (or contiguous parcels) of land divided into two or more manufactured home lots for rent or sale.  

            New construction means, for the purposes of determining insurance rates, structures for which the start of construction commenced on or after the effective date of an initial FIRM or after December 31, 1974 , whichever is later, and includes any subsequent improvements to such structures.  For floodplain management purposes, new construction means structures for which the start of construction commenced on or after the effective date of a floodplain management regulation adopted by a community and includes any subsequent improvements to such structures.  

            Violation means the failure of a structure or other development to be fully compliant with the community’s flood plain management regulations.  A structure or other development without the elevation certificate, other certifications, or other evidence of compliance required in 44 CFR § 60.3(b)(5), (c)(4), (c)(10), (d)(3), (e)(2), (e)(4), or (e)(5) is presumed to be in violation until such time as that documentation is provided.”  

Then, she added the third one:  

            “Are you in favor of repealing the definition of a Breakaway Wall?”  

Mr. French asked what a breakaway wall is.  Ms. Annis read:           

            “Breakaway wall means a wall that is not part of the structural support of the building and is intended through its design and construction to collapse under specific lateral loading forces without causing damage to the elevated portion of the building or supporting foundation.”  

Ms. Annis asked if we have a statement anywhere in the ordinance that “all proposed developments in any special flood hazard area shall require a permit.”  Mr. Mical said that currently it says that:  

            “An application for a Flood Hazard Development Permit shall be submitted to the Code Enforcement Officer/Building Inspector for all new or substantially improved structures located in Zones A or AE.”  

He said that he thought they were trying to add that the permit should be for all development and take out “all new or substantially improved structures.”  That would require a permit if you were doing anything in a special Flood Hazard Area.  There was discussion between Ms. Cooper and Mr. Mical about whether or not specific zones should be identified.  Mr. Mical said he believed that it would require a Flood Hazard Development Permit be issued for all development.  He said he thought it should remove all references to new or substantially improved structures and replace that phrase with any development, leaving in the references to Zones A or AE.  

Thus, it would read:  

            “An application for a Flood Hazard Development Permit shall be submitted to the Code Enforcement Officer/Building Inspector for all development located in Zones A or AE. . . .”  

Ms. Annis continued on to Item VII, correct the following sections to read:  

1.b.       “In unnumbered A zones the Code Enforcement Officer/Building Inspector shall obtain, review, and reasonably utilize any 100 year flood elevation data available from any federal, state or other source including data submitted for development proposals submitted to the community (i.e. subdivisions, site approvals).”  

2.a.       “All new construction or substantial improvement of residential structures in Zone A have the lowest floor (including basement) elevated to or above the 100 year flood elevation;”  

2.d.       “All recreational vehicles placed on site within Zones A and AE shall either:”  

Finally, Item IX, Nonconforming, change the 75% to 50%, resulting in the following:  

IX 6.     “If any non-conforming use or structure is destroyed by any means, including flood(s), to an extent   of 50% or more of its value, it shall not be reconstructed except in the conformity with the provisions of this Ordinance.”  

Ms. Annis said the corrections will be available at the next meeting to be sure they have been done correctly.  She said the public hearing will be at the work session in January.   

Mr. Mical said this covers the definition changes and the other changes.  He asked about whether the governing body having to adopt the maps through a resolution.  He said he thought the Planning Board had to propose that resolution.  Ms. Annis read on page 1 of Attachment 1, “See the attached 2006 legislation that now allows the governing body (i.e. Board of Selectmen) to adopt the new maps through a resolution.” Ms. Annis said it was her understanding from Mr. Gartrell’s communication that this should be done prior to our changing the Flood Plain Ordinance.  Mr. Mical said that the Flood Plain Ordinance right now refers to the 1987 maps, so that when those maps are changed, this will have to be changed.  Mr. French noted that whatever changes we’re proposing now don’t refer to any of the maps, so he thought these changes should be acceptable, whether the Selectmen adopt an updated map or not.  Ms. Annis noted that Mr. Gartrell suggested that the Board of Selectmen resolution should be taken up after they’ve done the final maps.  There was to be a preview of the maps last week, but Mr. Mical said that meeting had been cancelled and would be rescheduled.  He said that he believed that you could see the new proposed maps by going onto the UNH website and see the proposed maps.   

Ms. Annis said the amendments will be sent in the packets for the first meeting in January and a brief discussion will be held then.  The public hearing will be the third Monday in January.  Mr. French asked how the word was to be spread to the townspeople.  Ms. Cooper said her suggestion was to have a flyer to explain it and why.  Mr. Violette asked if it could also be put on the website.  Mr. French asked what is the “designated height” that is referred to in the “regulated floodway” definition.  Mr. Mical responded that it refers to the maps showing the floodplain and spreadsheets that are in the study.   

Mr. Mical explained that the USGS had e-mailed him (as Emergency Management Director) when this process started asking if there was any place that he wanted them to look at.  He replied that some areas in town had been flooded and there were also changes in the exit 9 area.  He said there was no long range study and wondered what effect that would have. They were supposed to look at those things as part of the changes.   

2.  Communications and Miscellaneous  

Mr. Violette reported on a meeting with the Budget Committee in regard to the Master Plan items.  He said we do have a contract and the first Phase will be for $9,000.  This will be able to come out of the Planning Board funds remaining in the 2007 budget.  They wanted to know how long it was going to take, naturally, trying to keep the budget as low as possible.  He told them he didn’t know yet.  He also reported that we have applied for funds through the Nancy Sibley Wilkins Fund for the Master Plan.  The question was how much to put in the 2008 budget, if any.  He thought they may end up putting between $2,000 and $5,000 for 2008, which would cover part of Phase II.  He said he believed it would take about a year to do Phase I.  He said that he thought this would also prepare the Budget Committee so we could go back to them on the Master Plan for the 2009 budget, too, if we need to.  

Mr. Violette also said he talked with the Budget Committee about traffic controls at Exit 9.  We have $10,000 in the budget to use for an engineering study and they will add another $10,000 for capital reserve for exit 9 traffic controls.  Ms. Cooper asked if that would be a separate item.  Mr. Violette replied that he thought it would be separate, but he wasn’t sure, noting that we already have the $10,000 available and the second one would be in the 2008 budget, either as a separate item or as part of the operating budget.  At least, he said, they understand what the issue is and that the State may not have money available and we don’t know what the cost will be, which is why we need to do the study.  We would turn all the information over to the Selectmen once we have it.  He reported that we’ve contacted various towns about the use of roundabouts and many have responded with information on engineering firms that they’ve used and some about the process.  But, he said, they’re all willing to help with sharing the information that they have learned.  If we went with traffic lights, that has to be coordinated with DOT, as well.  Mr. French noted that he thought the State was pushing roundabouts more than traffic lights now.  Mr. Violette replied that he didn’t get that impression from the people from DOT that he’d talked with, but it does seem that a lot of the towns are going to roundabouts.  He said he’d driven through the one in Keene and it had worked quite well.  He said we need these studies to report on our specific situation at Exit 9 to come up with recommendations.   

Mr. Mical said that he has the report on the Water Resource Plan for fire suppression for the Town of Warner which was done through a grant from the State and it’s available for anyone to see.   He said that the Town had identified 55 sites in town that were potential water sources for fire suppression.  He said this plan is to be adopted by the Selectmen and he represented the Planning Board on the study.  Ms. Annis asked if part of this report should end up in the Master Plan.  Mr. Mical replied that he believed it should be.  He said this would be an addendum to the Hazard Mitigation Plan that will be revised in 2008.  Ms. Annis and Mr. Mical agreed that what is needed for the Master Plan is a mention that these plans are in place.  Ms. Annis wondered if the Planning Board should hold on to the 10-page synopsis after it is adopted by the Selectmen and Mr. Mical agreed.  

James McLaughlin from the Conservation Commission said that the Conservation Commission is working on a Natural Resources Plan and is meeting on Wednesday night with the Sutton Conservation Commission, to look at the maps that have been produced so far in trying to arrive at a Conservation Plan for the town.  He said he thought this information should be gathered before the Master Plan update can be started.  He invited anyone from the Planning Board to attend the Wednesday meeting.  He suggested that sometime in the next few months, the Conservation Commission and the Planning Board meet during a work session to look at the maps and discuss how this is going to proceed.  Ms. Annis agreed that a work session would be appropriate.  Mr. McLaughlin said that all the data that they’ve gathered will be turned over to Central NH Regional Planning Commission.  Mr. Violette noted that we had told Sharon Wason of Central NH that we knew the Conservation Commission had done a lot of work that needed to be included.  

Ms. Annis reported that someone had noted that the references in the Subdivision Checklist didn’t tie to the sections in the Subdivision Regulations.  As a result, the Subdivision Checklist has been corrected to reference the Subdivision Regulations appropriately and the revision has been provided to everyone.  There was also a correction made to the size of the Mylar to be provided, from 22x24 Mylar to a 22x34 Mylar.  This checklist revised in December 2007 should replace those in each Board Member’s book.   

Ms. Annis said that someone had inquired about a major subdivision and they have been urged to come in with a conceptual, rather than a full application.

 

Mr. Watts MOVED to adjourn.  Mr. Violette SECONDED.  The meeting was adjourned.