Zoning Board of Adjustment

Warner, NH

Meeting Minutes of September 10, 2008

 

Members Present:  Martha Thoits, Chair, Dennis Barnard, Vice Chair, Eric Rodgers, Janice Loz, and Alternate Gordon Nolen.  (Jean Lightfoot recording)  

Excused:  Member Mike Holt and Alternates Rick Davies and Ted Young  

Not present:  None  

Ms. Thoits opened the meeting at 7:00 pm .  The roll call was taken.  Ms. Thoits said that Gordon Nolen will vote in place of Mike Holt  

1.  CASE #06-08 USE VARIANCE

a.       Applicant:  Debra (Baslow/Simon) Haywood

b.       Property Location:  549 Route 103 East, Warner, NH, Map 28, Lot 32, R-2 zoning district.

c.       Proposed Use: Change usage of hair salon to extra living quarters. Everything is already there for living space and there are sisters in the doublewide with 2 children and spouses.

Request Variance to terms of Article IV.L. of the Warner Zoning Ordinance relative to the allowance of only one permanent structure containing residences per lot.

                  a. Review Application – Accept/Reject/Continue

                  b. Public Hearing

                        c. Action Taken – Approve/Disapprove/Continue  

Ms. Thoits recognized Debra Haywood and asked her to present the variance application.  She said that she would like extra living space for the people who are living at the double-wide.  Ms. Thoits asked her to read the answers to the questions on the application.  Ms. Haywood read as follows:  

A.  No diminution (decrease) in value of surrounding properties will occur.

            Increase in value.

B.  Granting the variance will not be contrary to the public interest.

            Not contrary to public interest.

C.  Denial of the variance would impose unnecessary hardship on the applicant.  Applicant’s criteria for demonstrating hardship for a Use Variance are as follows:

a.   The Zoning restriction as applied interferes with a landowner’s reasonable use of the property, considering the unique setting of the property in its environment.

      Denial of this variance would impose undue hardship to the landowner.  This set-up is already in existence and as the owner of this property this would be very useful for family and friends.

b.   No fair and substantial relationship exists between the general purposes of the Zoning Ordinance and the specific restriction on the property.

      This is a true statement.

c.    Granting the Variance would not injure the public or private rights of others.

      No.  Granting variance would not injure public or private rights.

D.  By granting the variance, substantial justice will be done.

            Absolutely.  I will be able to make full use of my space.

E.  Granting the variance will not be contrary to the spirit of the Ordinance.

            Absolutely not.  

Ms. Haywood added that because the space is there and it can be used, even though it’s not connected, not allowing somebody to not use that space seems to be an inadequate usage of the space.  She said it is set up for and was used as a beauty salon.  She said there wasn’t enough business to keep it running so it was closed.  She said the way it is set up now works perfectly for family and friends to be able to use it.   

Ms. Thoits asked for questions from the Board.  Mr. Rodgers asked where the house is.  Ms. Haywood said it’s across the street from the Bocces’.  She said that all the requirements for a living space are already there because the water and septic was already there for the beauty salon.  Mr. Rodgers said, then, that Ms. Haywood wants to change the use to a residence from the hair salon.  Ms. Haywood said yes.  Mr. Rodgers asked if there is a kitchen.  Ms. Haywood said yes.  Mr. Rodgers then said that makes two dwellings on one lot.  Ms. Thoits said that is why she is here for the variance.  Mr. Nolen asked who uses the separate building.  Ms. Haywood said her daughter and her boyfriend.  She said that one daughter lives in the doublewide with her husband and two children and the other daughter would live in the separate building with her boyfriend.  Mr. Nolen asked if Ms. Haywood would be living there.  Ms. Haywood replied no, she lives at 352 Route 103 and the property is at 549 Route 103.  There was further discussion about the location of the property.  Mr. Rodgers asked if there is anyway to connect the two buildings inexpensively.  Ms. Haywood said she had thought about it, but there is no way without reconstructing where the doublewide is and then having to go in through either one of the bedrooms or the bathroom.  She said the other alternative was a deck on the back which would be like a covered bridge and would use up a lot of the back yard.  Mr. Nolen asked if anything was to change in the structures.  Ms. Haywood said no, only the use.  

Mr. Rodgers said that the problem is that historically, the town wants to keep one dwelling per lot because if you start getting more than one dwelling on a lot, and you sell it and someone else buys it, then it becomes two, three, or four rental properties on one lot.  He said that causes loss of value to everyone else in the neighborhood.  Ms. Thoits agreed that it does diminish the value.  Mr. Rodgers said that he has a similar situation with a small house in the back that he had wanted to convert for his mother and he was told no, not unless they’re connected.  Ms. Thoits said that if it’s connected, then it becomes a mother-in-law apartment which is allowed.  Mr. Rodger said that the connection doesn’t have to be insulated.  Mr. Barnard said it could be just an open walkway with a roof over it, connecting the two buildings.  Ms. Haywood asked if it actually has to be part of the other building.  Mr. Rodgers said no, a front porch could be extended to connect the two buildings, and then it would be connected.  He said that way you don’t have to cut a hole in the wall.  Mr. Barnard said that it looks like the two buildings are relatively close together so it would seem you could connect those.  Ms. Thoits agreed that it could be a porch, which would have to have a roof that is connected, and that would connect the two structures.  She asked if a deck with a roof could be constructed that went from the door of the beauty shop that went to the door of the house.  She said it would be more like a porch because it has a roof.  Ms. Haywood said she wondered if she is far enough away from Route 103 to do that.  Mr. Rodgers said that he thinks that if she came to the Zoning Board and said that she wanted to spend, say, $3000 to connect the two buildings with a deck, but that she needs a 10-foot variance on the setback from the road, more than likely she might get it every time.  Ms. Thoits said she would come nearer getting the setback variance than the use variance she is currently requesting.  Mr. Rodgers reiterated that he did not guarantee that a variance would be granted, but that more than likely it would be granted.  Ms. Thoits agreed.  Mr. Barnard said there is a better chance of getting that variance for the setback than for the two dwellings on one lot.  

Ms. Thoits explained that the Zoning Board members need to believe that all the criteria were met to allow a variance.  She said that she cannot honestly say that it is not contrary to the spirit of the Ordinance.  She said that the spirit of the Ordinance is trying to keep only one residence on a lot, no matter how large the lot is.  Ms. Haywood said that she had suggested it because it was already a structure that was in existence and it was already being used on the property.  Ms. Thoits said she understands, but it was not a sleeping quarters before.  Mr. Rodgers said that if the kitchen weren’t there, it would not be a house, by definition.  Ms. Loz and Ms. Thoits said they were not sure that he was right.  Ms. Thoits said that Ms. Haywood may sell the property and then the new people may think they have a rental property.  Ms. Haywood asked if it is family, does it matter.  Ms. Thoits said you cannot have two residences on one piece of property and that is in the Zoning Ordinance.  She added that to her, granting this variance does go against the spirit of the Ordinance.  She said that Ms. Haywood can promise that she won’t rent it, but there is no assurance if it is sold, then the next person would want to rent it.  Mr. Rodgers said this is a precedent setting situation where if Ms. Haywood is allowed to do it, then everybody else in town who has wanted to do the same thing in the last ten years will be here asking why it was allowed.  Mr. Barnard said that there have been many that were turned down.  Ms. Loz said that this situation is no different from anyone else’s situation.  Ms. Thoits said there were people with family who were turned down, as well.  Ms. Haywood asked if she needed to go to the Planning Board to build a connector.  Mr. Rodgers said he thought she only needed to go to the Selectmen for a building permit.  He said that they may ask her to go the Planning Board, but he doubted it.  Ms. Thoits said that they and the Building Inspector will insist that the setbacks are met.  Mr. Barnard said they will want to see a little drawing of what you have planned and what the setbacks are.  Mr. Rodgers said that if Ms. Haywood cannot meet the setbacks and before she spends any money on materials, then she should come back to the Zoning Board for the variance on the setbacks.  Ms. Thoits agreed that if the setbacks aren’t met, then she will need to come back for a variance.  Ms. Thoits said that the setback requirement is 40 feet from the edge of the road.  She told her to do the drawing, take it to the Selectmen and the Building Inspector will look at it.  Mr. Rodgers said by doing this, Ms. Haywood is improving the property and increasing the overall square footage of the one dwelling, which increases the value of her land and increases the value of those properties around it.   

Ms. Thoits asked if there were any other questions.  There were none.  She then closed the meeting and opened the public hearing.  There was no public comment.  She read a letter that was received:  

            To the Town of Warner Zoning Board of Adjustment: 

            “I do approve of Debra Haywood making her hair salon into a living quarters.

            “Diane L. (Buskey) Surrette /s/

            “573 Route 103 East

            “Warner, NH  03278”  

Ms. Thoits closed the public hearing and re-opened the meeting.  Mr. Rodgers MOVED to deny the variance based on potential future loss of equity in surrounding properties and it is contrary to the spirit of the Ordinance.”  Ms. Loz seconded.  There was no discussion.  The vote was taken.  A yes vote would deny the variance.  Mr. Rodgers, yes; Mr. Nolen, yes; Mr. Barnard, yes; Ms. Loz, yes; Ms. Thoits, yes.  The motion was PASSED and the variance was denied.   

Ms. Thoits advised Ms. Haywood to go to the Selectmen for a building permit to connect the two buildings with something with a roof.  Mr. Barnard said that it has to have a roof that connects from roof to roof.  Ms. Haywood thanked the Board and left.   

2.  MINUTES  

Mr. Rodgers, Mr. Nolen and Mr. Barnard said they were not at the August 13, 2008 meeting.  Ms. Loz said she did not get the minutes in time to review them.  Mr. Rodgers MOVED to postpone the approval of the August 13, 2008 minutes until next month.  Ms. Loz seconded.  The motion was PASSED unanimously.  

3.  COMMUNICATIONS AND MISCELLANEOUS  

The Board discussed the new Right-to-Know law in e-mails and other communications.  It was agreed that the Board rarely e-mails each other, but that if there were e-mails relating to matters before the board, they will copy the Zoning Board office to be saved and printed for the files for the public record.  Ms. Thoits said that they know not to discuss matters before the Board in private, and do not do it, let alone in e-mails.  But, it is a good reminder that whatever is talked about has to be open to the public.  Ms. Loz said that the only e-mails she remembers relate to confirmation of meetings.  Ms. Lightfoot said that that is exempt since it is procedural.  Ms. Thoits said that the only one she has received e-mail from is Rick Davies, who e-mails everyone when he does, including the Zoning Board office.  Ms. Loz asked if there are questions and they want to come in to get information from the files, is that all right.  Ms. Lightfoot said yes, it is public information.   

There was discussion about whether a board member could go on to someone’s property.  Ms. Loz said the question is whether we could walk on the property.  Ms. Thoits said that Mr. Herrick from last month will be on the agenda for next month and someone had asked if he could go and look at the property.  Mr. Rodgers said that he thinks there should be notification for a site review and they can say yes or no.  Ms. Thoits agreed, but said it would be as a group to look at the property.  She said that the question was whether one person could individually go and look at the property.  Mr. Barnard said that he didn’t think you could legally walk on someone’s property without asking permission.  Ms. Loz said that the decision was that, even with permission, an individual member should not walk on someone’s property.  She said that it was agreed that usually we would arrange for a site walk and all go together and it is open to the public.   

4.  ADJOURN  

Mr. Rodger MOVED to adjourn.  Mr. Nolen seconded.  The motion was PASSED unanimously. The meeting was adjourned at 7:32 p.m.